I would like to thank the editors of this journal for providing this venue and thus allowing this exchange between myself and Prof. Klyza to take place. Moreover, I would like to thank Prof. Klyza for his thoughtful rejoinder. Nevertheless, and not surprisingly, I disagree with his interpretation of my work. More importantly, however, I disagree with Prof. Klyza's interpretation of his own work as well as with his interpretation of the state-centered approach.