To the Editor—We acknowledge the letter by Wallace.Reference Wallace 1 We are greatly concerned by the fact that the opposite opinion was raised by the principal scientist of the manufacturer of the da Vinci Surgical System. Before our discussion, it should be recognized that the author’s argument might be intrinsically biased from the commercial standpoint. We would like to respond to the issues raised in the letter.
Interpretation of “Published Evidence” of Cleaning Efficacy
The author stated that the amount of residual protein in the robotic instruments was too much, referring to the study by Wallace et al.Reference Wallace, Wille, Roth and Hubert 2 However, the study protocols were different from each other, as mentioned below.
First, Wallace et alReference Wallace, Wille, Roth and Hubert 2 did not assess the housing of the instruments connecting to the shaft, in which surgical soil could “travel up by gravity.” In fact, our central sterile supply department staff sometimes observe leakage of bloody ascites from the housing after surgical use. Our data values were higher than those in the previous study because our results reflected the protein remaining on the whole surface area of robotic instruments including inside the lumen of shafts and housings.Reference Saito, Yasuhara, Murakoshi, Komatsu, Fukatsu and Uetera 3
Second, their study was based on a protocol proposed to assess the cleanliness of robotic instruments.Reference Wehrl, Albers and Bühler 4 In this article, robotic instruments were soiled with 200–500 µg protein before measurements. The assumed initial contamination was even lower than residual protein after cleaning in our study.Reference Saito, Yasuhara, Murakoshi, Komatsu, Fukatsu and Uetera 3 Our data clearly demonstrated that this assumption did not reflect the actual case in clinical settings.
Consideration of Experimental Protocol
The author stated that washer disinfectors should not have been used in our study because they are not allowed in ISO 15883-1. However, in this standard, nonthermal disinfection is adopted only for testing the function of machines and not for testing the cleanliness of surgical instruments. This claim does not make sense. The cleaning conditions in our study were based on the method described in the manufacturer’s instructions. Our data reflect more precisely the situation of surgical instruments at use in operations.
Negative controls were not employed in our study nor in the Wallace et al study.Reference Wallace, Wille, Roth and Hubert 2 The author claimed that negative controls could interfere through residues from the manufacturing process.Reference Wallace 1 However, the effects could be minimized by 3 reprocessing cycles, as employed in previous studies.Reference Saito, Yasuhara, Murakoshi, Komatsu, Fukatsu and Uetera 3 , Reference Wehrl and Michels 5 The robotic instruments we assessed for residual protein had undergone 10 reprocessing cycles followed by 10 clinical uses.Reference Wehrl, Albers and Bühler 4 Thus, the use of a negative control was not necessary in our study.
The author assumed that the iron and tungsten particles were released in the ultrasonication process and influenced the results in the bicinchoninic acid assay.Reference Wallace 1 However, this assumption is not true according to the manufacturer’s instructions for the assay kit we used. The author also stated that 30-minute ultrasonication was harsh and could result in instrument damage.Reference Wallace 1 However, it is necessary to clean instruments for a total of 150 minutes of ultrasonication prior to each set of 10 consecutive uses, according to the manufacturer’s instructions. It seems that this claim was only made to find fault with our study.
The author was concerned that the water volume for extraction was too large in our study.Reference Wallace 1 This claim is not correct because the volume of extraction fluid does not influence the results when the measurement procedure is performed appropriately. On the contrary, it was necessary for the water volume to be sufficient to fill the lumens and cavities inside the instruments for the whole surface of robotic instruments to have direct contact with the extraction fluids. This volume was essential to assess the entire amount of residual protein. We believe that a 100-mL volume is not sufficient to fill the lumen and cavity. Thus, a smaller volume of water may lead to false-negative results because of insufficient protein extraction.
Patient Safety or a Matter of Business
The reason the robotic instruments were cleaned manually with ultrasonication in our hospital was that this method was described in the manufacturer’s instructions. We understand that specific types of washing machines may improve the results of cleaning. We speculate that the manufacturer does not insist on using washing machines only because it could interfere with the sales of the robotic system by increasing the cost.
The author changed his focus from a flaw in the device design of robotic instruments to a flaw in the cleaning practice.Reference Lucas, Nagaraja, Gordon and Hitchins 6 Again, however, it is virtually impossible to completely clean instruments that have a vast surface area of canals and cavities inside.Reference Wehrl, Albers and Bühler 4 In conclusion, our top priority is neither manufacturing nor business, but patients and patient safety.
ACKNOWLEDGMENTS
Financial support. This study was supported by a grant-in-aid for scientific research from the Japan Society for the Promotion of Science (grant no. JP 15K19259).
Potential conflicts of interest. All authors report no conflict of interest relevant to this article.
